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July 26th, 2007 · 7 Comments

After spending at least 2 days thinking of that title, I thought I’d better crack-on with the review that XHTML/CSS or Xhtmlslashcss ordered from ReviewMe to be featured on this blog. They’ve already managed to generate some buzz around the blogosphere with similar reviews appearing on JohnChow.com and Tyler Cruz to name but a few internet entrepreneurs.

So what exactly does XHTML/CSS do and how does the process work?

Well it’s sort of a “what it says on the tin” service, but I’ll quote from the homepage:

How It Works

1. You send us the design that you want turned into XHTML/CSS. [normally a PSD file]
2. Once payment is received we begin coding your design.
3. Within 3 days we send you your design as valid XHTML/CSS.

I’ve started reading up on both XHTML (which is the more up-to-date and standards compliant code) and CSS in order to try to teach myself coding from scratch. Whilst Wordpress makes it very easy for us non-programmers to create a website, full knowledge of the languages we’re editing in our Admin Panels is a very useful skill to have.

XHTML/CSS

The website itself is clean and easy-to-use, which they promise to do for your site too. One of the major things that strikes you as you enter the page, is the lack of any graphics - an eye-turner to say the least in the age of rich media. Their reason for this?

“What? No Images?” That’s right, we do code not design.

I understand that they do code, but surely their job includes slicing up images and logos and putting them onto other sites. To me, a site with a logo appears 10 times more professional than one without. Therefore, I would recommend that they get someone to create a logo if they can’t create one themselves and stick one in the header (properly coded of course) for branding and marketing purposes.

Tyler Cruz reported in his interview that whilst the homepage was XHTML and CSS Valid, other inside pages like Get Started and Contact were not. This, although easy-to-make error, sort of undermines their whole service, but at least the problem has been fixed.

The crew of coders that own XHTML/CSS seem very capable to say the least. John, Steve and Tomas are all apparent masters in XHTML and CSS and their knowledge of other languages includes PHP, Javascript and MySQL which are all key in more advanced and interactive web development.


The guys also make sure that your site will work in all of the major web browsers - including Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera and Safari - another great addition to their service. If you’re viewing from IE, you’ll notice that Blogtrepreneur has some terrible breaks at the end of each post. Connor still needs to finish up a few things on this design, but you can begin to recognise how important it is to make sure that your site views properly for the majority of your readers - who won’t think twice about clicking the “Back” button in their browser.

XHTMLslashCSS Prices

In terms of pricing, the rate actually seems very reasonable compared to other similar sites which I have seen on the net. $150 for 1 page seems very good, and if (like XHTML/CSS’s own site) your website has 1 main template whereby you only need to change text or maybe forms for different pages - then you could be looking at $150 for the whole site (if you’re up for some basic HTML editing).

Otherwise, the sharp increase in price from $150 to $250 for only one extra page does seem to put me off, however if your front page is jam-packed full of juicy images and different from the rest of the site, then this figure would be worth paying. The “Integration into Wordpress” price is actually extremely reasonable at $250 - and would be worth it in terms of standing out from the crowd. If not, then take your pick from these overused themes.

Moving onto the Portfolio, where you can see examples of their work. However, all the sites on the page seem to point to a sub-folder in the XHTML/CSS site, and are not “live” examples. I myself would have preferred to see real-life examples from people who had ordered certain packages - maybe an addition which the team could include. This SalesManager template seems pretty good though, and again showcases their quality talent.

The best part of the site kicks in when you visit the Competitors page. Here, the team have listed most of the competing websites in their niche; which ranges from well-known sites like PSD2HTML and XHTMLit to less well-knowns like CodePress. The idea behind this concept is that XHTMLslashCSS tells you to visit these other shops and then cockily claims “You’ll Be Back“.

I like this attitude and it shows how ballsy you’ve got to be when competing with big sites with lots of customer recommendations in your niche. I visited the other sites and found only 3-5 sites with cheaper pricing - who says that these sites are necessarily better though?

What’s the need for Valid XHTML and CSS Code?

This is one of the questions that I would have liked to learn directly from the proverbial horse’s mouth. I think it could really benefit them, if the team described the Search Engine benefits of having valid code and how it could make a difference to traffic and thus revenue for the site owners. It would definitely encourage me to order from XHTML/CSS, because as you can see, neither my HTML, nor my CSS validates.

I’ve seen a couple of these PSD to Valid Code type of services on the net, but from what I can tell, the guys over at XHTML/CSS seem to be on top of the game and I’m sure that they can progress to become big players in their niche. If you’ve got any questions, try contacting them or leaving a comment here, or order from them to get your site validated - they accept all the major forms of payment too!

So, who feels like validating my website?

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7 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Paul // Jul 26, 2007 at 8:11 pm

    I don’t think having valid XHTML/CSS makes any difference to your search engine rankings, as they will mostly ignore CSS (except perhaps for tricks like display:none to hide text from browsers) and your HTML would have to be pretty bad for Google et al. to be unable to parse it. The only reason I aim for valid XHTML/CSS on all my sites is because I am a standards pedant and would like my sites to be viewable by anyone - including blind people.

  • 2 adnan // Jul 26, 2007 at 10:44 pm

    Hey Paul - yeah I wasn’t really sure - a few people said that it did matter and that the bots don’t like unvalidated code, but then I just read up on the topic and it says that Google doesn’t really care - so long as the bots can access it properly. The only people who care are the users in the different browsers.

    Lol if I was a programmer, I’d be much like you ie. very pedantic over code!

    Thanks for pointing out my mistake.

  • 3 sarahG // Jul 27, 2007 at 8:23 pm

    Hmm their front page may be valid but it’s not very semantic, certainly not I’d want to pay for. The inline styles are the first turn off and they don’t appear to have much knowledge on the use of headers and how often to use them. Still it’s better than most!

    As for why the need for valid markup. I always remember reading an experiment by an SEO where he set up a page and purposely put not just invalid markup in the page but errors (ie. he inserted the wrong tag after the opening table tag). On indexing his various test pages, this was the one page that didn’t get indexed by Google. Whether that was just because Googlebot came along, read the doctype, saw it was invalid and figured it’d come back at a later date when it could ’spend more time’ on it who knows. I’ve not returned the article so I couldn’t say for certain.

    Forget valid CSS, that’s for browsers and your own work only. It’s the (x)HTML you need to concern yourself with. My opinion is that whilst the bots will index invalid pages, heck I’ve seen pages with two opening html tags, one half way through the code, be at the top of rankings, however I’m of the belief that the more valid, less bloated, and semantically well laid out your code is, the better rankings you’ll receive. Of course the external links say a lot too, but for on page SEO, valid, semantic, non-bloated markup is going to give you that extra few metres out of the starting blocks. It’s not really that hard to accomplish, and once you’ve learnt how to do it a couple of times then it’ll become second nature. So why not get those few extra metres?

    I remember reading on SEOmoz about on page SEO and Randfish stated there, if your site is accessible and well markedup then you’ve catered for the bots as far as your code is concerned (content is a different matter afterall). Remember, bots are blind and deaf, so write your markup to WAI level II, clear the bloat and hopefully see the bots loving your site ;)

  • 4 sarahG // Jul 27, 2007 at 8:24 pm

    Ooo that was a bit long :oops:

    Just to add (as I clearly didn’t say enough) - w3schools.com is a good place for free learning, as are the free chapters from the various SitePoint books on the subject. HTML Utopia I have and highly recommend it :) (but it’s cheaper from Amazon!)

  • 5 adnan // Jul 28, 2007 at 12:19 pm

    Hey Sarah - wow that was an incredible comment and thanks for sharing all that knowledge. It was extremely helpful to me as a (X)HTML n00b. I recently bought a book on XHTML and CSS which has taught me always to keep things neat and tidy and valid just for my own ease of use and to give the web browsers an easy time.

    But it wasa very interesting to know that messily coded pages weren’t indexed, something to bear in mind definitely for Blogtrepreneur.

    Thanks for the links as well to the sites. Amazon has a really good range of books which are pretty reasonable in price. Amazon (USA) though does have some downright bargains due to the exchange rate - it’s a pity we can’t shop over on their site huh?!

    Thanks again Sarah - probably the best comment I’ve ever received!

  • 6 WordPress Plugin Advice // Aug 19, 2007 at 9:42 pm

    I have to agree with sarahand Paul. Validating CSS is what you should not care. Its for presentation. So it makes sense that bots do not care about css except when you intentionally hide links. Actually you may be penalized if you intentionally hide links on your pages.

    However you dont want to confuse bots with invalid xHTML. Did you yourself clicked on the validation links in your footer :)

  • 7 Jason // Apr 16, 2008 at 7:38 pm

    I’ve used several services before that take a PSD to the xhtml / css phase and I really like http://slicemydesign.com. Really good guys to work with.

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